Sin and Punishment Review

Wow, this game looks crazy hard! I must play Sin&Punishment. I must!!

This is an awesome game. I remember it being released only in Japan for the N64. I hope this is coming to the US and Europe as well.

WOW - This game looks SWEET!

Foreign games on the VC would be UBER-COOL

I love Treasure, I shall definitely be getting this. Especially since it will be the first N64 game on the VC which I haven't already owned/played before!

This one of those forbidden fruit type games?

You know, like how Eve knew the Apples would just be regular Apples, but because they were forbidden she wanted them so bad, and then did and doomed the earth forever (Or so it goes).

Because this looks like Starwing mixed with EDF on the 360. The linear on the rails style progression with mediocre shooting gameplay.

It just looks like a 3D shmup to me, and not a particularly good one either. It looks boring, really boring.

This game looks pretty good and I'd probably get it for its uniqueness alone if it comes to Europe and US

"Because this looks like Starwing mixed with EDF on the 360. The linear on the rails style progression with mediocre shooting gameplay."

It's more like a (relatively) modernized Space Harrier (side-to-side and vertical control from behind the player) with a wider arsenal of moves and enemies that are actually fun to fight.

game looks SICK! ill DL if it makes it to the NA VC

654.

Well Damo says it's like Starwing/Starfox, so :lol:

While I love Space Harrier 1 (2 is bleh) and Starwing. I still think it looks bad.

The only thing that makes me think this game mightn't suck, is that it's by Treasure. So as bad as it looks to me, I would still buy it because of the fantastic games Treasure have already released on the VC.

One of the best and most intense games I've ever played. The Aircraft Carrier level alone is worth the price of admission... Best game on the N64, too!

Was this one of the few games to use the "lefty grip" on the 64 controller?
The video seems to suggest that, atleast I cant think of any other way to both aim and run on the same time. Left hand on D-pad for controlling, with L as jump. Right hand on analog stick, with Z as fire.

woo! Australia FINALLY gets something awesome!!! Great!

Wow. The game looks amazing. That sword-fighting sequence would be great to reproduce for a Wii sequel.

This was a fun game. A little short but fun none the less. If you enjoy Star Fox 64, you should enjoy this as well. Definately not a bad way to spend 1000 or so points.

WOO
Aussie wii shop channel confirms that Sin and Punishment will be released on the 28th of sept...... though like mario lost levels and super mario picross it will probably be a bit more expensive in points

Can't Wait

I hope al least this one will bw translated -_-

Does the player really move forward automatically like in Starwing/-fox!? Looks like going on rails... without rails! It's just because I like my Run'n'Gun games a bit more on the adventure-ish side, what other point in leaving your trusty starfighter or state-of-the-art battletank than for freedom of movement

Virtual Console is shaping out to be real heaven for Treasure games. How about Mischief Makers, Nintendo? Hmm?

Sin and Punishment doesn't really need a translation...it would be nice, but in the main game every bit of voice acting is in English, so if you know English you would be alright. Might have to guess the first time or two at the menus though.

Oh yes, and I forgot to say...Sin and Punishment is fantastic. I have played it before. I hope it ends up on the US Virtual Console as well...I always hoped it would, but I never thought it would (it coming out in Europe is a good sign). We need some Mischief Makers too.

And I need BAKURETSU MUTEKI BANGAIO, another great N64 game by Treasure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54YMteen2OQ

Awesome game, although hard!

Sorry...i have to ask. Is the main point of that level really to chase, persecute, and kill some dudes pet cat?

I only ask coz if it is....im on board! cats: what are they for?

It is just insane (in a good way).
Espacially Level 2.2!

Has this been rayed by the ESRB yet and if so what was it rated

Nope, no ESRB rating yet.

Morphballer (USA) - 31 Aug 2007, 16:36 GMT

Wow, this game looks crazy hard! I must play Sin&Punishment. I must!!

Thats because he has it on Hard Mode lmao

Well I have all N64 VC releases so far and I read in the review that S&P is just like Lylat Wars/Starfox 64 but on the ground. I've been watchin some vids on youtube and I am gettin attracted to Waverace 64...

Can't wait to play this! Treasure have never let me down yet and I've been following them since Gunstar Heroes.

Just 2 and a half hours now

Personally I'd give it the 5 stars as it's just amazing what they did on the N64. Atmosphere, story, frame rate, action, game play. Plain unique in every way on this machine. Unfortunately though I find it a bit easy, the story might not appeal to everybody, it's short and it might be too simple to some, so my rather objective rating would have to be 4 out of 5.
I love my N64 for games like this. ^^

*crosses fingers* Please come to Americana!

The Classic Controller kinda makes this game odd... Gotta see if it works with the Gamecube pad once I get my Wavebird. The main problem is its reliance on the shoulder buttons in either of the three control configurations. For the CC, the least awkward control configuration - the one that doesn't necessitate using the L button as the shoot button - is configuration 3. Configuration 2 is pretty decent, too, since it doesn't make you use the R button as the jump button.

I have just bought and played with this game and my adrenaline in the sky This game is rock and last time I felt the same when I played with Radiant Silvergun. I have a feeling that we will get a new episode for Wii soon (wiimote is perfect for this game).

Great, will download later today. Now bring their other games! I know it's a very long shot but one can hope. I want Radiant Silvergun! I know it's a Saturn game but still... If one game deserves to be played it's that one. I'd even buy it at full retail price.

Yeah, this is a must-have! I've downloaded it and I must say that I love Treasure and all they've done, including Sin And Punishment (although the music in S&A wasn't as good as I had hoped)

Oh well, you can't get it all =)

Treasure did it again! This is simply the best railgunner ever! And with Ikaruga as a Gamecube disc all we really need right now is some sort of Radiant Silvergun port

This game has it's faults, yes, like shortness and the fact that you can't change subtitles into English(the voices kinda hard to understand at some points), but that doesn't change the fact that this game is insanely good. Atmosphere is awesome, story is great and action is non-stop. Treasure quality, propably best shooter on VC.

A great blast and the odd, abstract storyline only adds to it for me. Even though I've got the original I'll still be downloading this. Nice one NOE!

What a game!
The Aircraft carrier lever is sooo intense!
A brilliant game!

and don't forget co-op... makes it even more fun!!!

A rare and great action game from Treasure in this side of Star Fox 64. Since it's a Japanese title, the game costs 200 points more for an N64 VC game. As the game used a unique control setup, it can be awkward to get used to on a Classic or GC controller. The gameplay is a blend of Gunstar Heroes, Panzer Dragoon and Star Fox 64. My thoughts: I enjoyed every moment of playing Sin & Punishment. A great action game, bar none...

Sounds good, I might give it a try.
Does anybody know if Nintendo will release other Japan-only stuff after this, like the F-zero X expansion kit

Sci-fi week would have been better for Europe if Super Metroid got released.

Excellent game! Really Really great! 3 hours plus and loving it.

Until someone makes an N64 pad shaped Classic Controller for the Wii (now there's an idea...) I have been enjoying Control Configuration 3 with the Classic Controller. Not so easy to jump (a button) while shooting, but the shooting on (b) and the strafing on the shoulder buttons make sense.

If we don't get this game on Monday, then the whole world can kiss my ass.

I've been playing this - it's awesome.

This totally makes up for the lack of any hardcore games for the Wii itself.

This game is great, despite the slight hickup with the controls, go check out my review on http://www.wagj.co.uk/reviews/2007/09/sin-and-punishment-n64-virtual-console.html

I gave it an 8.8 out of 10

rated 5 stars for epicness

I downloaded this on Friday, fantastic game if you take it for what it is, an arcade on-rails shooter and worth every point it cost. I think the aircraft carrier level is probably the best shooter level I've ever seen, if I'd have played it on the N64 when it came out I would have been blow away. I've always been a fan of Treasure and was a bit disappointed it didn't get a release over in the west but hey, worth the wait!

I agree with Mii be you when he says that sci-fi week would have been a blast if the wonderful Super Metroid had been released. I can hardly wait for that one right now, and when I do get it to my VC (when it'll be available), I'll be one happy gamer - not that I'm an unhappy game now though =P

Wii and Virtual Console are wonderful facts of modern video gaming!!!

WOHOO!! US got it today! I'm going home after work to play this all afternoon!

This preview reminded me of a great game, "Jet Force Gemini".. This game should be on Vc

And now it's a reality that Sin and Punishment finally made it to North America. Why didn't Nintendo bring this N64 gem in 2001? Better late than never, Nintendo...

Is it still worth buying if I have a GC controller and not a classic controller? I don't want to waste $12 on something that barely works because of the controller...

From the description, it says the game takes place in the near future. But check out the date on the clock in the intro before the title screen. screenshot: http://i21.tinypic.com/o6wmms.jpg
I think 7 years was a bit TOO near

I just got this game last night. I must say it kicks butt and gives you that total arcade feel! I highly recommend this game as it worth your last 1200 wii points!!!

This game is a lesson in frustration and also what the N64 was capable of. It's a very good game, interesting, and artsy. However, it is so d@mn hard. Even on easy, the game will punish you. For those easily frustrated, look out. However, those looking for a very different game, a challenge, and some flavor that never made it out of Japan, this game is worth the money. I like it, but not totally my bag of tea. Also, I'm sure it played much better on the N64 controller, but the cube controller works ok once you get used to it. Maybe the classic controller wil handle better?

Looks awesome, worth the extra $2.00.

The controls for this game are very awkward, but it's well worth struggling...

Great game. Works well on both controllers with Type 3.

Sin and Punishment is best described as what would happen if Starfox, Time Crisis, House of the Dead, and Jet Force Gemini all got together and had a beautiful, relentless love child. I suppose now is as good a time as ever to acknowledge this great game, considering it does take place in 2007 despite being made in 2000. Why you never got to play this game is sadly unknown. It was translated into English. Hell, the voice acting was originally in English anyway, don’t ask why, so all the nitty gritty was already done with, and the only thing left to really do was release it. It never happened. I guess it could have been due to a lack of interest, considering this was right on the line between the birth of the Gamecube and the death of the Nintendo 64. In any case, you have been robbed of one of the finest games the N64 has to offer. Regardless of your language capabilities, playing this game is awesome, even if you have to import it for a ridiculous price and carefully saw off some bits of plastic so that it will fit into your inferior American console. Goddam, this you deserve better. You pay your taxes, and you are a respectable citizen, so why the fuck wouldn’t Nintendo just push through all the bullshit and do whatever miniscule work it required to release this? I don’t know. Sin and Punishment is friggin awesome, just about as badass of a shooter as you will find on the console and great mesh of different elements of third person shooters. It isn’t without it’s little issues, but the fun factor is through the roof.

The game is a futuristic third person shooter that moves along on “rails,” that is, you don’t choose where you move but instead how you aim and sidestep while going along that set path. The two main characters are Saki and Arain, two brave sensible rebels, and you control them through the games several levels. You are expected to be a walking army with very few weapons, namely a police issue laser gun and a sword built into it. This may seem simple for some peoples tastes, but adding anything more would just ruin everything. It’s really all you need, and you never find yourself wishing you had other weapons in the game. Learning to use both of these weapons efficiently is key; the gun has two modes of aim, one manual and one less powerful lock-on, and they both have their time and place. The key to playing this game effectively is being able to move, aim, and shoot at the same time, and it can get pretty difficult. There are a lot of buttons used in this game, for sure. You need to sidestep, roll, jump, aim, and dodge bullets in rapid succession, so you’ve got enough on your mind to worry about without having many weapons to chose from. The sword is used for close combat only, and it is initiated by tapping Z very quickly when something is near enough. If you can manage to master it, you can end up doing a lot of damage, saving a lot of aiming, and quickly taking down stages with greater efficiency.

Sin and Punishment is, like most games by Treasure, short but sweet. It’s over just as you have gotten pumped enough to enjoy a game three times bigger. Fortunately, the game is so packed with action and fun that it doesn’t really matter. There are several difficulty levels and reason enough to play through the game several times. The sound can be a bit annoying. There is this great scene where Arain is battling her way through a monster infested subway in the dark and it is so ruined by the background music. As far as backgrounds go, the graphics are stunning and great for the N64, but the character designs are presented very poorly. It may be a mixed bag on the outside, but it’s interior is solid. If I didn’t explain thoroughly that this game is ACTION PACKED, well shit I just did it again. It really does remind me of Time Crisis and other similar arcade games where the player has to deal with enemies jumping down from places and sidestepping into different positions that you have to be aware of. Particularly memorable is a scene where Arain takes down an entire Navy in a matter of about two minutes flying around at dizzying speeds on a piece of jagged metal controlled by a psychic friend. It may seem a shame that this game ends so soon, but it’s worth playing over and over again. Now that we finally have it, there is no reason that you shouldn't give this game a spin. It's a true classic.

This game would work perfect with the remote, Sensor bar to aim , control pad to move, B to shoot and a to jump, That would be an awesome update, though it would never happen, maybe they'll do something like it on Wii though.
Anyway I'd give this game a high 4, not quite 5 though.

Great game 1200points well spent.
One thing if you look at the alarm clock in the prolog you see the date being 18 aug 2007 which means Tokyo allready been distroid .
Anyway great game .

AWESOME!!!

the new WII zapper coming out would definitely be an awesome addition to the already amazing game

I can c y japan wanted 2 keep this for themselves! This game is the ish,sick,nasty,and byfar the best shoot em up game I ever played!!!!

Just got this and it really is rediculous. Awesome value for money, it is a bit awkward in the beginning with the controls, i use a classic controller, but the training mode is very good and with 3 setups to choose from it should suite most needs. Highly recomended to anyone who likes over the top anime action

I adore this game. 1200 points well spent. Was a little weird with the controls, but once i learned i could use the Y and X buttons to move left and right, the game was plain sailing.

I just beat this game on Easy and... wow! It's simply amazing. An intense sensory overload where every moment is just sheer awesomeness. Forget the high cost and download this game!

(Oh, and D-pad and right stick work well for using the classic controller on this game.)

yeah, just downloaded it and beat the training and first level. you guys weren't kidding about the controls. they really will need some getting used to. the excellent quality of the game is visible from the start but n64 cut scenes will need getting used to.

On wii shop channel it say that a 2 player games... can we play 2 at the same time???

This is one of the best N64 games you'll ever see in your miserable life. When I heard this game was released on the VC I could hear angels sing. When you play the flying over aircraft carriers level and the beach level, you'll wonder why it took so long for this to come to the states dispite how awesome these two levels are. I'll admit, the final boss against the fake Earth (OMG Spoilers) is impossible, but you'll notice that this game is well worth coughing up 1200 points.

EDIT: (pssst... here's a hint. At the final boss against the fake Earth, use the lock-on mode the whole time. You'll see.)

Why they never released it outside of Japan?.

What where they thinking!!! /AVGN

Yeah this one doesn't much interest me, it has good graphics and a nice atmosphere, but not my type of game, star fox 64 is enough of a shooter for me

This was the first game I've downloaded on VC that I hadn't previously played... and it's absolutely fantastic! Well worth 1200 points.

OVERRATED. serously, the controls don't seem that great, and starfox64 is 1000 times better

I believe that this is 1200 points well spent. I've enjoyed every minute of play I've had with this, though I haven't a freakin' CLUE what the story is. If anybody's got some time, then I would appreciate a synopsis. Anyway, fun shooter with nice visuals and FANTASTIC bosses.

Oh, and as an aside, why does everyone say it is so short? It took me an hour to get through the first two chapters (or whatever they are called). I just got to the subway after an hour. Gamespot claims the game can be beat in 30 min. Do I just suck?

this is probly one of the best games ive ever downloaded on vc i could play it over and over again and never get tired of it

too bad this was never released for us. but I love it. an easy 5/5 score. This game is a "must have" for all of the wii owners. (the extra $2 is worth it!)

Clayfrd its just because you're probably new at it. I had the same issues but after I beat the game and went back through it, the levels flew by much much faster.

This game is awe-inspiring. It's the most expensive title on the VC, but it's also the freshest to the general audience, and one of the more unique titles. The rail-shooter-meets-third-person-shooter type design really works, and even with controls as simple (if tricky to learn) as they are, Treasure manages to do what they do best - get a lot of variety, in a short amount of time. The only issue I have with this game is that I was really confused by the story... it would've been nice to have English subtitles, seriously.

Weird....really weird....yet good....infact great!

Crazy game. highly recommended

This game= AWESOME

Very highly reccomended to anyone wanting a fast paced run n gun in 3D. 5 stars.

It works fine with the CC (I'd say at least as well as it would with the ugly three-pronged 64 controller) but I'd really prefer a nunchuk/remote combo. After being spoiled by Wii games it's really annoying to have to use a stick to move a cursor!

Thank the randomness of the video game gods! I remember seeing this being played in my favorite import store on Elizabeth St in China Town (NY). It was beyond expensive, but I nearly purchased it. I left instead with a stack of import saturn games, some anime, and a couple of jpop cds & game sound-tracks. I went back the following week after payday, but they were sold out. They never got any more in. Treasure and Sin & Punishment are perfect examples of why I play games to begin with. HELLS YEAH!!!!!!

If it wasnt 1200 pts I would already have this. Guess I have to wait until I get another card. Then again, I have the points for Kirby 64!

Best N64 game.

Ever.

I used to think this was way overrated but I gave it another go and now I've joined the choir.

"It works fine with the CC (I'd say at least as well as it would with the ugly three-pronged 64 controller) but I'd really prefer a nunchuk/remote combo. After being spoiled by Wii games it's really annoying to have to use a stick to move a cursor!"

I agree. This looks like it could be some great old-school shoot-em-up fun, but I'd rather waggle a Wiimote than move a cursor by analog. That, and this is only one player. Shame, since these types are always more fun w/ 2+ players. Oh, and it's twelve bucks. (tho I appreciate the translation work)

hmmmmmmmm got a bit boring cos its really hard

Beautiful game

I have never played such a great pick up and play game, and it was really worth the 1200 points too, in my opinion.

Controls are confusing to understand in the beginning but you get the hang of it later on. I just don't understand why Nintendo priced a N64 game for 1200 wii points. The game is short but challenging.

This is the next VC I plan to get...we need more awesome import titles!

Fantastic Game. Absolutely brilliant

Great game. -1 points off for the somewhat unintuitive controls and "hardcore" gameplay style though. I like a perfectly fair challenge.

This game certainly has one of the most ridiculusly chaotic final bosses EVER!

Cool.

This is a very very good game. Such a crime it never came out in europe and america. Its so good even the training mode keeps making me come back to the game.

get bonus

get 1200 wii points

get tresure to make sequel

yes, we need wiiware sequel using the wiimote

My first n64 game downloaded for my wii

Decent game, but I hate the limited continues.

looks like star fox except a human and he walks instead of flies in a ship. looks good. ill get it

The story and gameplay are decent, but the ending is just way to confusing!

If continues weren't limited, this might be my favortie VC game. Still great though and worth the 1200 points. 5/5

Ah, the first N64/import game I ever downloaded. I have no idea what the hell this game is about, but it is AWESOME! and the music is great. It's incredibly difficult though and the limited continues and the osomewhat oddly set up controls don't make it any easier. I'm still stuck on the aircraft stage on normal.

But still awesome game, well worth the 1200 point plunge. 5/5.

Treasure, I love you.

The wiimote and nunchuk would be perfect for this game. If there ever was a wii sequel, that would just make my day.

Game is absolutely incredible. Think StarFox, but on foot.
My best VC purchase to date. Now I just need to get a Classic Controller so I can actually get a good control scheme going.

^Don't bother using a Classic Controller for this game. S&P was built around the N64 controller, and the GC contoller is the closest thing to it imo.

Quite curious about this one, but it really just seems to stand out as a shooter... which doesn't seem worth the 12 bucks from my perspective.

ya i have it in storage because i find it not really that immersive as a whole for 12 bucks worth... all u do is aim and fire no moving and manual tactics. its fun for a little while tho. I wish nintendo had a wii shop trade in spot where u can trade in the wiiware and vc games you dont like back for half the points u bought them for or sumthing

Finally got this. Went through and lost all of my 13 credits by stage 2-2 (Sad, i know!) Went through again and didnt die until stage 2-2! I really like this game. You get better as you learn the levels and the tracks. The story is confusing though. And some of the audio is hard to hear with only Japanese subbies.

So..i beat it in 2 days...but I don't regret buying it at all. Very cool game, but most of the story was still very confusing, even for someone like me who watches lots of Japanese stuff. Anyone know a good site,etc. that explains it better?

I put off downloading this for the longest time despite only hearing good things. After a glut of crappy games, I finally went for it, and boy am i glad I did!!!
Simply amazing, but did anyone else think Saki was a girl?

@Andio Pandio
Wait a second. Isn't Saki a girl?

No Saki (the main character) is a guy. Thats made pretty obvious in the ending when he talks to whats-her-name that you play as in the middle of the game.

Sorry, I haven't beaten the game yet. That stupid boss where you fight a planet is impossible.

EDIT: I beat it! Even though no one knows the game's plot, I call this the best import game and shooter on VC!

@couthedman92
You found that boss hard? Granted I was playing on the easiest setting, but I only died once as opposed to other stages which took lots of lives.

@Objection_Blaster
I thought it was hard mostly because of those giant lava things you have to slice. I had completley forgotten that I could do a quick dash (although it doesn't respond all the time).

What?
a game thats better thean goldeneye!!!
MUST PLAY!!!

So wait, you guys are saying that the GC controller is a better set up than the CC? That doesn't really make any sense. It's GOT to be a preferrence thing. The CC set up/lay out of buttons is actually closer to the N64 controller than the neft up A,B,Y,X abomination on the GC.

YESSSS!!!! Sin & Punishment 2 is in the works! After I played this game I immediately thought about how cool it would be with wii controls. I hope it comes out soon!

One of the best games ever made. 2 is gonna own so hard.

This is the kind of game that will remind you why you play video games in the first place.

I just started playing this game a few days ago, and I really just can't get into it. Keep in mind I've only gotten to level 1-3 (I think it was), but story just makes no sense, I can't see what any of the graphics is supposed to resemble, I sometimes find it unclear with things I need to dodge and how, and it's just not that fun, like fx the "Radan" boss at level 1-2, all i did was just to hold down the fire botton at then jump every now and then, pretty boring. Should I keep giving this game chances? Or do you think its just not for me? Thanks

I'm really enjoying this. Just beaten it for first time (much more forgiving than Treasure's usual fare) albeit on 'Easy' mode - haha!

The story is indeed pure gash and it is acted atrociously, but that just adds to the lunatic charm of it for me. Reminds me a bit of that nasty anime Urotsokidoji, which I'm ashamed to say I've seen...twice.

The crazy shooting scenarios are where it's at, in particular the incredible aircraft carrier level and the side-scrolling level. It's not in the same league as Lylat Wars, in my opinion, but well worth a blast. And at about 45 minutes for a run-through it doesn't outstay it's welcome.

Just.......WOW! Awesomw looking game that I had NO CLUE was on the VC until today. Kept hearing the name dropped, but hadn't looked it up until now. It's looks like an Ikari Warriors 3D.

This is now on top of my To Buy list! If the controls don't hamstring the gameplay (multiaxis aiming and moving is always a tough trick to pull off via natural controller limitations and human desire to not be controlling 4 joysticks simultaneously..... ), then it's GOT to be a great game.

Reminds me a bit of Contra 3's overhead levels, but with less overhead view and 50 times more kickassness.

This game is like a personification of the life essence of video games. Pure, unadulterated fun. It doesn't try to be art, it doesn't try to be "epic" - it's just a 45-minute blast that you will play over and over again. Absolute masterpiece. I really can't get across how much I love this game, particularly the final boss.

(PS. The final boss is the most enjoyable final boss in the history of video games.)

Just downloaded this last night. I wanted to for a while now. I hate to say it but the driving factor behind the timing of my purchase was that I had the exact amount of Wii Points hanging around. Regardless, I anticipate many hours of fun with this one. Now I get to play as that chick that whoops my hiney in Smash Bros.

^You realize that the "hot chick" that your talking about is a guy right?