USA VC Update: Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (Master System)

Another 1 game week again Edit: nothing personal Sonic

The VC is turning me into an AVGN

Another 1 game week? Not good especially since most people may not be interested in Sonic 2 on the MS. I guess we are less likely to see Secret of Mana now.

YES!

Yes, yes, yes! Get this into Europe ASAP, this is the same as the Game Gear version (I think) and I absolutely adored that game. Immediate purchase for me.

not a bad game but only 1 game again??? this holiday season is not looking to good for nintendo

Lame. Nuff said.

Its too bad that there is one game again this week. At least it is a game I want to try.

Great more lame bullcrap. I figured as much.

Fail...

If this is gonna keep up they should at least give us two vc games on the 22nd and I'll hold off on getting sonic 2 for now.

Maybe they might be nice and give us something good the week before christmas but the way it's been going my hopes aren't too high.

By the way things are going you guys will be lucky if PSIV and Castlenania III came out this year. I have a feeling it's another 1 game week again with either Earthworm Jim 2 or Clayfighter. Lame.

Bummer once again.

I'll probably get this though not immediately....

On the plus side at least that makes one more master system game available on the shop.

It could be worse. It could be the Game Gear version. Wait a tic, the Master System version was most like the Game Gear version. Oh well.

Tony, don't be like AVGN--he's got a potty mouth. Maybe he'll outgrow it when he has kids to raise who imitate him.

They went out of Master System order! Enduro Racer was next to be prophecized! Its the end of the world! Apocolypse Now!

I think the AVGN just likes to complain because it makes him feel important. Alot of the games he screams and moans about I actually like.

Well, son of a b*tch. Another one week game. Nintendo is certainly dedicated to pissing off the virtual consoles loyal fans. Well, soon enough we'll have the Nintendo apologists arguing that Nintendo has done this to protect their bottom line with all sorts of vague and unsound facts to back it up. (I'm guessing most of them haven't taken any business courses)

As a note unrelated to this week, what is holding up the vast majority of the third party games from the systems? Of course some games have be bogged down in legal limbo (especially if the company went out of business), but there is a vast back library that Nintendo needs to tap here.

"Grumble grumble"

Sonic 2 is a good game, but I like Sonic 1 on the sms better, I bought Sonic 2 years ago.

I am suprised that Sonic 2 is for 500 wii points since I remembered seeing the Game Gear cartridge on store shelves in North America, not the Sms cartridge,

I have this for Game Gear. My GG doesn't work anymore and I really liked this game and never got the chance to beat it. Hopefully now I can

Not a great week for you guys i guess, although some will be happy with this game.

lol, A Playstation Network Ad on a site about the Wii. Anyway, Sonic 2 looks alright. Nintendo needs to release more VC titles.

Who would buy this when Sonic 2 from the Genesis is available on the VC. Another f*ing lost week. I wish they would stop giving us all this WiiWare crap and start giving us better VC games. Sadly, I have a bad feeling that 1 game weeks are the norm now. Nintendo are such idiots!

Sigh... At least Cipher looks excited, not that I have any idea why, personally. I'm hoping this game is one of the Master System games that'll be unlockable on Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection (with Sonic in the title, it seems likely) so I won't have to waste $5 on it. Oh, well. I'm still not done with Chrono Trigger on DS, and that's my #1 gaming fix right now, so it's okay, I guess...

Like the first Sonic on the Master System, it's a good game, but nowhere near as good as its console counterpart.

Lies! Well, technically correct, since MD Sonic 2 is absolutely brilliant, and MS Sonic 2 is just plain brilliant, but you're definitely doing the 8-bit game a disservice Marcel.

I'm expecting a two games for our VC week on thursday. Should I foolishly hope for Secret of Mana again? Or should I just not expect anything to escape being sad?

Wow, I seriously just woke up from a dream where we got NOTHING. This much better than nothing

EDIT: By NOTHING I mean we got no VC titles and a WiiWare title worth 100 points where all you do is use the balance board to flip a mouse up and down on a seesaw.... and you guys blasted the @^*% out of it

Oh boy another exciting Monday. PASS.

Who thinks that NoA are building up for a bumper week of awesome games near Christmas?

The cries of unnecessary doom continues. e.e

@Bass
Your best off not expecting anything that way you wont be sad, I notice from your past comments your a big S.O.M fan and have been waiting patiently for it, I share your pain I have no particular interest in mana but have been waiting for mario golf since day one, what makes it worse its been out ages in other regions and when it's not released it's an even bigger disappointment knowing it's another 2 week wait living in hope, I've given up on expecting it this year and I would say this week will be sonic 2 and boogerman just to make it worse.

@ Kelvin: To be honest I played the Game Gear version on Sonic Gems Collection and didn't like it that much

@ Link79
u think it makes him feel important the AVGN has a huge fan base more than i can say for u or myself for that matter

I already gave up hoping for SoM to come out to the EU. Looks like we are getting just 2 games again this week. Doesn't Nintendo know it's almost xmas?

they might be saving it for christmas. or square might just hate europe.

I am suprised that Sonic 2 is for 500 wii points since I remembered seeing the Game Gear cartridge on store shelves in North America, not the Sms cartridge,
Thats right the last Master System game to hit America was the first Sonic game (it goes for a lot of money as well...funny thing is it is identical to the European release bar a sticket or two on it).

this is the same as the Game Gear version (I think)
Almost. You can now see the whole screen now so suddenly the first boss goes from being incredably cheap to possible.

"At least Cipher looks excited, not that I have any idea why, personally."

Because I'm very strange and nostalgic right now. =D

@Gh0sTiE5

"Who thinks that NoA are building up for a bumper week of awesome games near Christmas?"

Not me. We'll probably get Earthworm Jim 2 and Clayfighter before the end of the year, but I don't expect more than that.

"Who would buy this when Sonic 2 from the Genesis is available on the VC."

People who are smart enough to understand that this is a completely different game?

It's hardly one of the better 2D Sonics, though.

Only one game again this week? That's too bad.
I wish Nintendo would release 4 games every week. (2 VC + 2 WiiWare)

Sadly, they only release 2 WiiWare + 1 VC these days. Let's get even here and release 4!

It was great two ww and vc. They really should go back to that instead of these disappointing vc weeks.

I haven't even gotten around to downloading Sonic 2 on Genesis yet, so this week qualifies as a let down for me. I hope that Nintendo doesn't consider this their "big release" for the month.

I remember playing Sonic 2 as a kid for Game Gear, and it being really difficult. And by difficult, I mean cheap; like "How can you not get hit in this boss battle," cheap. So I'm not exactly thrilled by this week either.

However, it is a Master System game. Can we see some legitimate Master System releases in the future, please? Golden Axe Warrior? Alien Syndrome? Rastan? ...

Yay?

Still playing Chrono Trigger. I love Sonic games, but why don't we get Sonic & Knuckles instead of kinda Game Gear Sonic games. I'll get pissed if NOA is still doing one crappy VC game weeks by the week of the 22nd and the 29th.

... ... ... Hmm, I wonder what's going on in Rivet City...

Don't worry I am not going to curse like the AVGN does Its just very frustrating to wait for games week by week. We need more variety and Wii Ware games are not doing it for me right now. Maybe Cave Story will be good, but until then I want VC games. I think the SMS should have started with 5 games. Its taken almost 6 months to get 5 games out. I had a bad feeling we would end up getting one game VC weeks. Shame Nintendo

I remember thinking the Game Gear version was really cheap but if it's full screen now then it may be a LOT more enjoyable this time around. I remember the Master System version of Sonic 1 on SMS was a lot of fun to play with more exploration elements.

But as happy as I am personally to see this release I'm disappointed we didn't get Wonder Boy in Monster Land first

So USA has gotten 20 games since Sept. 1st. Hmm... So at this rate by March or April we should have around 300 games.

@Bendover83: Well hopefully Punch-Out Wii will be out around then and we can get Super Punch-Out!! for VC at the same time

Or I can dream

I was just reading that the SMS version of Sonic 2 is almost identical to the Game Gear version, except different music is played at certain places like the beginning and ending theme and boss stages, and the SMS version has 1 high speed box in the game where as the GG version doesn't. I would assume that this is definitely the SMS version but why it's only 500 points I don't know and I won't complain!

@ Atlantis1982 - You're right... the doom is entirely unnecessary and should stop immediately! Well put... hear that Nintendo? No more unnecessary doom and there won't be anymore cries!

Thanks for the laugh dude.

And yes, this is yet another lame week.

@chunky_droid: That's a good dream.
A Wii game release with a related VC game hasn't happened since Mario Galaxy and Mario 3 came out, I think.
My dream VC game for this month is that hopefully PSIV comes out.

another sh*t week

Good thing nothing I'm interested in has released lately. My memory is pretty full. WIi need a hard-drive. BAD.

Yes Nintendo haven't done a cross-over game in quite some time, then again they haven't really released anything on the Wii that would have a VC counterpart in quite a while, though they missed the boat with Super Mario Kart, that's the last title I can think of they could have done.

Great, the Superior version of Sonic 2 8 bit! =D

Oh look, another one-game week. Why does that not surprise me?

Honestly, there's no excuse for them to keep doing this. There hasn't been a single game released that I've been even slightly interested in downloading since MM3 released almost a month ago. I realize that their primary focus is Wiiware right now, and I gladly support both services, but why can't they just release 2 games for both VC and WW? I don't see how that's so difficult!

Hopefully they'll give us something cool for Christmas. <crosses fingers for Kirby's Dreamland 3 or Earthbound.>

On the bright side, we got B&S on Wiiware, and since everything else is crap, I have less to distract me from my midterm preparations.

53. Manicfatty

I see you still are butt sore from our argument with the hard drive which is still unnecessary seeing as how people should just deal with what we have cause Nintendo really has no intention in doing so. Anyway, we had a lot of good releases from the past few months, give it a rest people and stop acting like spoiled brats.

Another 1 game week.... But is Sonic..... 2 goods games /2 weeks... But i hope a nintendo 64 game for christmas..

"nowhere near as good as its console counterpart." I´d say nowhere near as good as it´s preceedor either. The first Sonic for MS has way better levels. The veicles in this game just slows things down, btw. Get another Sonic game instead.

@chunky_droid: They could've gotten super obscure (and import-y while they were at it) and released Mario and Wario when Wario Land: Shake It! came out or something. Actually, this week's release almost looks like a lame (and slightly delayed) Sonic Unleashed tie-in, so maybe Nintendo IS still doing those, albeit far crappier ones than last year.

I've given up on EVER expecting good things from the VC. I started to a couple months ago in that SMRPG-Secret of Mana period when it was all quality (whether I wanted a particular game or not), but that just lead to the disappointment of now. Better to expect crap EVERY week and be overjoyed when something good comes out, I guess...

Wow talk about shafted. I had this on the SMS up until I sold it a good month or two ago. It's an OK title, but it's Sonic2 Gamegear, not the fantastic full title and has nothing in common with it. It's sad to see it is the only release, but I should say it was a damn fun game still.

"Actually, this week's release almost looks like a lame (and slightly delayed) Sonic Unleashed tie-in"

If that was their plan, the LEAST they could've done was give us Sonic & Knuckles. >_>

@post 61:
I guessed earlier that we'd have Nintendo apologists show up, and looks like one did. We've had a few good releases over the course of 8 weeks, not a lot like you suggest. And if you find people complaining about the half-assed decisions Nintendo is making annoying, just imagine how bad someone complaining about the complainers sounds.

Join me Americans as we all "ugh".

Maybe they'll make this sequel month and we'll get Earthbound and Majora's Mask (2nd N64 Zelda it totally counts). Add in some totally random and unlikely games like Dragon Quest 2 and the 2nd N64 Castlevania and we're set

Wow people... Wow...
So we got one game, I don't mind. It's still a decent game & it's better than no game. Quit whining people.
That's all I got to say.

I downloaded Bruiser & Scratch and am enjoying it very much, but I'm getting reeeeeeeaaaaaaally tired of this recent string of one-game VC releases. They haven't been atrocious games but the problem is that last week's Metal Slug 2 is available by other means, aka Metal Slug Anthology, which gives you a lot more bang (no pun intended) for your buck. This week's Master System version of Sonic the Hedgehog 2 isn't a bad game, but it's really only for the hardcore Sonic devotees. Where on earth are the 2-3 game weeks where we get a diverse string of titles like Dracula's Curse, Kirby's Dream Land 3, Earthworm Jim 2, Earthbound, A Boy and his Blob, Pilotwings, or Uncharted Waters? Not to mention the surprise treat titles Nintendo releases occasionally. I hope you have something really grand in mind for Christmas time, NoA, because this one-mediocre-game-per-week treatment is getting old.

@ Chunky Droid: You dream about surfing the vc-reviews website? Bahahaha. You need to get your mates and go out and get loose in a bar or something

Oh, and by the way, I can't wait until a couple of good releases come out around christmas/ new years and a lot of people on here change their tune lol. I remember before the Secret of Mana/Super Mario RPG/Castlevania 3 releases it was pretty slim pickings for several months and there were a lot of grumblings then too.

One game a week; what's Nintendo's problem?

@Mr. Cheez: I did say "lame," did I not?

@Digiki: Don't forget Zoda's Revenge! It's been almost a full year since we got StarTropics; it's time to finish the series (and make more afterwords, I wish... ).

@timp29: I agree about the good releases and remembered grumbling. Be careful how you say that, though, as there's still grumbling in both camps due to titles from that list you mentioned. I PERSONALLY don't care about Castlevania 3, though I hope it releases for all those who do. At least it'd be a generally favored release for a change... But yeah, I too look forward to ended grumbling, but I don't expect it at this rate. But I'm ready to be surprised, Nintendo (hint hint)!

I'm just happy that the VC updates every week, and besides I wanted this game to come out, I remember playing the Game Gear version when I was a kid, so I'll get this one, I mean it's only 500 points...

I have this on Gems collection (well, the GG version, which is apparently identical save for screen size). I didn't play much, but now that this has come out, I think I'll go back to it. I really enjoyed it just like Sonic 1 MS. I like the MS Sonic 1 better than it's Genesis counterpart, actually. Anyway, from what I've played on Gems, this is pretty good. Not really a bad week despite having just one release on VC.

@Mr. Cheez "Hopefully they'll give us something cool for Christmas. <crosses fingers for Kirby's Dreamland 3 or Earthbound.>"

I'm crossing my fingers for both . I can dream, can't I?

This isn't bad, though I don't think I'll get, since I too have the GG version, and that suites me just fine.

I was waiting for this game so I'm happy .
@timp29
I'm waiting for that change of tune for Christmas too. It's a little depressing how week after week, the comments on the updates are so negative and some even rude; I seriously have no problem with this one game weeks, I knew eventually the service would have long periods like this, just be patient.

The biggest thing I hate in the original Sonic games is Eggman as the final boss. With the exception of Sonic 3 I believe, you have no rings to fight with, and when you take one hit (which happens very quickly), you die. He is just too hard. That's why I've haven't beaten Sonic 2 or 3 yet (without using god mode).

I beat Sonic 2 using exploits of the two final boss's fighting patterns. You can beat both of them fairly easily without ever really risking getting hit. Well... the way I defeat the Robotnik walker thing isn't an exploit, but the way I defeat Metal Sonic is an exploit. The other way to beat Metal Sonic isn't particularly hard either, though, it's just riskier. Sonic 3, however, I am still working on (I'm on the last level). I've beaten the final boss fairly easily using level select on Sonic 1, but I've never gotten to the boss legitimately, which is also something I'm working on. I guess the only Sonic games I've beaten legitimately (not counting 3d Sonics) are Sonic CD and Sonic Advance. I guess I can count Sonic 2, though, since I can blaze through the whole game in about an hour, maybe less.

Well, I already have the amazing Sonic Gems Collection, so I'll pass up on this one. I have to admit this seems like a rather disappointing week. Two obscure (and for me, unappealing) WiiWare games are the major pain this week.

@Digiki: Don't forget Double Dragon 2 and TMNT 2.
Like I said I'm not going to complain until either the week of 22nd or 29th. A Sonic game is great anytime. It's not highly rated for me since I have Sonic Mega Collection and Gems Collections and original Sonic 1, Sonic & Knuckles, Sonic Blast, Knuckles Choatix, Sonic CD, Sonic Chronicles, and Secret Rings. I collect the comic book series as well; only missing three issues out of 195. phew.

@ Atlantis1982
Oh my dear lord you're a troll. But you do amuse me, so... troll on.

@ Virus - Love the compilations! I would have loved to see Sonic CD with, at the very least, the option to use the Japanese Sound track. I'm not saying it's better, but it's cool. Of course I know that won't happen, but what a wonderfully nerdy moment that would be!

I'm just happy that the VC updates every week
Yeah! Thats what Im talking about!

I consider it a good update if at least one thing is added to the Shop.
I consider it a great update if at least one person enjoyed or has enjoyed at least one game in the update.

This game isn't bad at all. In some ways I liked how the Master system's versions did things like no Tails tag-along and not losing ALL your rings regardless of whether you had 1 or 300 (one of the things I found overwhelmingly stupid about the other Sonic games).

Im with Mike - Wiiware has been a major let down for me...
Too much shovelware crap. Time to step it up with the vc. Where are all the N64 classics? We have a handfull, but come on! Bring on Air Boarder 64, Fighters Destiny, South Park, Superman 64 (he he).
Or if Nintendo are running out of games, I think SEGA might be interested in pimping out some of thier Saturn gems. Fighters Megamix, NiGHTS, Panzer Dragoon.
ahhh.... oh well.

I think we need to set our standards as low as possible. We should lobby for 1 game per month. Heck, we don't even deserve that much......maybe one game per major holiday. But perhaps that would still be an unfair burden to place on Big N ......we really shouldn't be so demanding and ungrateful.

Indeed as the Big N would probably put it ....... Let them eat cake!!

This message has been brought to you by the Committee for People Not Being Passive Doormat Consumers.

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There's being appreciative for things provided in the past, and THEN there's also being honest about the treatment happening in the present. People remaining silent and thankful for Big N's crumbs when this is a market where money talks ............ I really don't know what to say to folks who don't want to at least try to drive their own car. Metaphorically speaking.

In other news, as single games go, this week could have been worse. And it could have also been a lot better. If 1 game weeks are Big N's way of enhancing the appreciation of the few games of top quality that are featured and released (probably like for Christmans), then I'd say they were nuts....... cept for the fact that the starve (for months at a time) and then pamper (for a week or two at a time) marketing strategy seems to be working on some of their customers. Can a manipulative marketing strategy really be "wrong" if it's successful? If I drop a house on someone and no one saw me (caught me) do it, did that person still get pancaked??

(Sorry, I'm getting philosophical again. )

Anyway, with the US having been staked in the heart again this week (well that may be a bit harsh, since it was at least a Hedgehog game), I do what I can and pray for Europe to get a better VC week(s) than us. Let them eat Mario Golf and Secret of Mana!!

And I'll continue to expect nothing each week (for the US VC releases) and settle for the imagination of what it would be like to have long-term positive release trends that would give me a reason to get excited in advance of each week.

I could live undisappointed with two VC releases per week of garbage for months at a time far better than one release per week that alternates garbage/fair/garbage/great/garbage/fair/garbage......... I only have so many weeks left in my life Big N!!
And even fewer before you release your next Next-Gen system and start ignoring VC gaming even more than now..........................

I suppose Big N might be wanting to push folks toward buying $50 games rather than supplying better $5 game availability. I just wish they'd say so up front and give us an advance schedule of the multitude of drought stages. I'm running out of anti-depressants at this rate!

It looks like Nintendo is, frankly becoming less and less interested in the VC. Could it have something to do with hosting space?

i think its because of limited games available to them to put up on the VC. look at the list of coming soon. some of those games have been up for over a year now so its unlikely they're coming soon. but there are a few games not available in the other region.

Who knows what Nintendo is doing. Maybe they're slowing their releases to build up for big releases over christmas and new years. Maybe they've near exhausted the list of games that they can release without licensing issues. Maybe they have some maximising profits scheme, perhaps WiiWare is intended to slow the VC release schedule, or maybe (and most likely unlikely) is Nintendo hate their customers and they want us to buy 360s and PS3s .

To be honest though, I think we should get used to this slower rate of releases. Europe/Pacific copped it once when we went from VC release every week, to VC release every fortnight. I still fondly remember many an epic fail picture.

PS Could we see a revival of the epic fail pics next time Ninty lets us down please drake/marcel/corbie

We have only 1 game per week. But in these weeks, Nintendo release a Good Game.

Megaman 3
Boogerman
Metal Slug 2
Sonic the hedgehog 2

@ Drake, well, the Game Gear version plays quite differently, since the play area is scaled down due to the screen size. This is one of my favourites in the whole series, but it tends to get overlooked due to 16-bit snobbery.

@ timp29
if u look @ the titles that r coming out 4 the holiday season there garbage compared to ps3 and espcially 360 all the wii game titles or should i say interested titles r coming out after the holiday season with that being the case u would think they would release something to hold us over till early 09 i mean where r the nintendo owned games that could b put out that there not
super mario kart snes
yoshi island snes
super smash bros n64
the legend of zelda marjora mask ( sorry spelled that wrong )
but u get my drift if were not gonna get any half way decent games this hoilday season @ least give us the classics

83. Manicfatty
Speak for yourself.

Sigh, its why I never bother going to sites like these, everyone is whining and complaining.

@touffeboy: There's the problem...you didn't mention a single game that would be considered by anywhere near the majority to be worth single releases. Games on collections for the most part (even if they were different versions like with Sonic), with Boogerman being the only exception (and people seem generally disinterested with that one). And why should we want "good" games one at a time, when they should be doubling up for those and only doing one-game weeks when they're GREAT?

This whole thing is painfully slow, and makes me yearn for the weeks so very long ago when we'd get three crap games in a week on VC.

@ Atlantis1982
ppl arent whining just speaking the facts welcome to reality if you dont like it go on another site than clown

@post 94:
Let me ask you, Atlantis, how many really great games has Nintendo released in the past six months? In the next six? I'll talking physical media here, not VC or WiiWare. In this current drought of "hardcore" (I hate that term, really) releases, is it too demanding to hope the VC can pick up the slack? I don't regret getting a Wii, but let's just say I'm glad its not the only system I have.

A lot of people seem to speaking about the 'AVGN'. "Tony, don't be like AVGN--he's got a potty mouth. Maybe he'll outgrow it when he has kids to raise who imitate him." - stinssd

"I think the AVGN just likes to complain because it makes him feel important. Alot of the games he screams and moans about I actually like." - slangman

Those quotes made me laugh. Do you idiots even realise what the the AVGN is? AVGN is merely a FICTIONAL character portrayed by James Rolfe (who created the character), AVGN ISN'T REAL - the AVGN doesn't exist outside the videos he appears in. James Rolfe is an intelligent, artistic (the AVGN is a creation, they're scripted) quiet, mild-mannered, married man - so I doubt his kids will "copy his potty-mouth" (he's apparently nothing like the AVGN, he's quiet and doesn't swear) and I doubt he gets any sort of ego boost from complaining about games (although he will probably be pleased to be making a living off moaning about games). There really are some stupid people out there (the fact you tried to act all clever by saying how the AVGN should 'grow up' makes you look like a complete clown to me), and it feels so good to deprive them of their ignorance.

Thank you.

@WiiGamer24

David Letternan and Jay Leno follow scripts too. What's your point?

I prefer Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw to the Angry Video Game Nerd. His reviews are smarter and funnier. Plus, Yahtzee reviews newly released titles. I don't understand the point of tearing apart a game that was made 20 years ago.

I like the AVGN for his voice, his stage presence, his humor, his insight and his mannerisms. AVGN is so much more than some guy swearing on a video - anybody with a video camera and a youtube account can do that. And many have tried but they just can't come close to James' character. Sure AVGN swears a lot but its not that he swears, its the way he does it. When you sit down to watch a new AVGN video, you don't need to know the game to know that you're almost guaranteed to have an enjoyable twenty minutes or so. Sure some episodes have gimmicks, a guest character or scene played out, there's only really been two bad videos though - the ** Pickle one and the crossover with some other people at christmas.

#99: We tear bad videogames apart all the time here, the only difference is that he's doing it on video as part of an act for viewers to watch rather than posting about it on a message board like we do. And his audience are 20/30-somethings who nostalgia for the games or at least the era he's talking about.

@Wiigamer24
Different strokes for different folks. I'm sure the AVGN is just a character, but some people just don't care for him, or the character if you prefer. (I think he's pretty hit and miss, but when he's good he's pretty funny.)

@Atlantis. Lots of people whine and complain on the internet. Live with it. It's the complainers that keep the threads of video game sites like these alive.

@ ALDAWGZ (post 93)
Heheh you apologise for spelling for a game name in your post?? lol. But anyway, I agree with you on the PS3 and 360 christmas releases. They've got it in spades over nintendo's current releases. About all we have had for christmas is WiiMusic and has anyone played it? I haven't even looked at it, I'm not a music person, but its certainly not my cup of tea. And yes, you would think the VC would provide an avenue to compete with PS3 and 360, but nintendo doesn't seem to be taking it, probably due to the low publicity that the VC receives as well as lack of available games to put on the service.

@Atlantis (94)
I know, it bugs me too.

@ (61) Atlantis1982 - If you can name for me one reason that I cannot refute for why we shouldn't be upset about the Wii's memory, I'll give you a virtual medal.

@RurouniTeeter
No dude, it's barely a decent game and it's just the same as getting no game to most of us. But you have a point, we should stop complaining and look at VC releases as the lottery.
@ 94. Atlantis1982
Don't. Or you could just not read the comments and your problems are solved. Also notice that some VC releases (cough)Booger man(cough) are a lot more annoying than any stupid comments from whiny fan boys like me. The fact is we got one game, and we can all have opinions.
@ 102. Mr. Cheez & 71. Jockolantern
True.

@ Atlantis1982 - Um... Yeeeeeaah... I kinda was speaking for myself there genius. And don't pull the high and mighty crap. You come off as an inarticulate troll and you're on this site ALL of the d@mn time... complaining and whining about all of the whining and complaining and insulting anyone with an opinion that differs from yours. At least be honest about your visits.

Your stands are well known. You don't believe that Nintendo dropped the ball with storage, you don't believe it's reasonable for ppl to want more than one average VC game a week and you don't think that anyone here deserves to have their voice heard if it isn't singing Nintendo's praises. Well, this obviously isn't the most productive place for you to visit. Let ppl have their opinions. Engage them in productive and intelligent debate. Agree to disagree. But plz stop being an acerbic @ss, and stop insulting everyone and complaining about our disappointment in Nintendo. Thank you.

Right on, Manicfatty! These 1 game release weeks blow huge chunks. Boogerman...where the hell did Nintendo pull that piece of crap from? Anyway, Manicfatty you are correct. Every week we get people who complain about how bad the VC releases have been lately (Mega Man 3 is the lone exception), and right on cue, we always get some holier than thou loser defending Nintendo.

building up to a great game? better be ZAMN...

tis true.

Isn't it just because of Wiiware? I mean, haven't they been consistent about releasing three downloads (between Wiiware and the VC) per week?

@Cally - Probably... some sort of misguided business model/plan... but it sucks. Not every VC gamer is interested in Wiiware and the opposite is true as well. I also don't think it would be as much of an issue if the Wiiware games kicked @ss. Given the dirth of quality games, the lack of really good VC releases stands out. Add to that the slow to a trickle and you have some understandably disappointed VC gamers.

@manicfatty
rite on brotha im getting tried of that clown as well i thought this was the whole point of leaving a comment to express your opinion about what has come out

It's like you guys didn't even get a new game. Just something that's already there, but different, and crapper.

oh man, i was actually looking forward to this week...
Here's to whatever the holidays bring us

Wow go easy on atlantis. Thats some real e-rage you guys are weilding lol.

Well there are still 3 mondays left in December. I am guessing since we got 5 games in November we will get 5 games in December. Which means 3 more 1 game weeks Blah! I will always prefer the VC to Wii Ware. The only saving grace for Wii Ware ( for me personally) was Mega Man 9 and the Art Style games.

@112:
No one's looking to pick on Atlantis. When you comments boil down to"Leave Nintendo alone!" and "People disagreeing with me are acting like brats" you're going to get some backlash. Are we whining? I suppose you could say that. But we're doing it for a reason.

@ timp29 Sorry if I sound vicious, but to quote Khan in 'ST: The Wrath of Khan'... 'He tasks me!' Dude always pops in to berate everyone here, and tell us how, and I'm paraphrasing from many comments left, how lazy, ridiculous, wrong, uninformed, stupid, etc, etc, pick your insult. And then puts the blame for his comments on those who he has attacked. So I tire of that sort of mentality. That's all.

Tomorrow night, Europe will be four or less games behind America. Not bad at all.

Dang, Another 1 game week, With my least favorite Sonic MS/GG game. I couldnt get past the first hanglider level, And where is Tails? Tails was one of the best parts of Sonic 2 on the Genesis/Mega Drive, But in this version hes kidnapped right from the get-go!

Honestly, I loved the MS/GG version of Sonic 1, But the MS could do much better for Sonic 2.

Well... maybe SMS/GG Sonic 2 came before Genesis Sonic 2. You don't think they would make a new Sonic game back then and not put in Tails do you?

Hmmm...complainers complaining about complainers who complain about complainers...interesting. But wait, what does that make me then?

Tails onley appears in the game's 2 endings. He isn't playable.
Anyways, regardless of this being my least favorite Sonic game, (I'd even go so far as to say the Shadow game was better) it's nice to see them releasing a new 8-bit Master System/Game Gear Sonic title.

Still, I always feel cheated when they onley release one VC game a week, instead of two. Hopefully, they'll later on release 3-game releases to make up for it. (Wich I doubt.)

@Virus: Good for a laugh.

@Virus

I think there should be message-board mediators or something. I'm sure it would pay great.

But a comment above was totally right. VC and Wiiware are different markets, although I know they were trying to push people into getting interested.

@Virus. It hurts my brain to think about that. lol.

Another fail Nintendo, nice, a second game is all that i want 2 see, is that hard?
@ Virus: That makes you an observer who watches complainers complain about complainers who complain about complainers who complain about the game or the one release week;
a complainer who complains about everyone complaining either: about others complainers, about the game, or about complainers complainig about the one release week or;
a complainer who complains about complainers who complain about complainers who complains about complainers complaining about the game or the one release week.
Wow, that is very confusing. Please no one add to that because I can barely understand that explanation.

I like cheese.

@Viral
Unless you guys only get 1 game, LOL!

I wish to complain about cheese.

@Captain_Konami - Quit complaining about cheese. You should feel lucky you got ANY cheese this week. So what if it's a brick of greasy govt cheese. At least it's something and no one owes you ANY cheese. I don't want to hear any whining about how you have no place to store your cheese either! Just spend a morning cleaning out your fridge and put the cheese your currently not eating in a large box and have a friend who has room store it. You wouldn't be able to get it right away if you want to eat it or cook with it; you'd have to move the other cheese around again. But it's there. And no one told you to buy so much cheese! Quit being so lazy and move your cheeses around to make room!

mmmmm....processed american cheese...drool

Both versions of Sonic 2 came out on the same day, the 24th of November 1992. Sonic Twosday.

@Manicfatty: Hilarious.

@Kelvin: In Europe, of course. Interestingly, GameFAQS doesn't even list a Japanese release for the SMS Sonic 2, just Europe. That seemed very odd to me...

Mmmmm... Cheese...

#134: Its just that nobody has added it yet. U.S. games usually get priority by contributers because most of them live in America. I just submitted the entry.

@Bass X0: Oh yeah, I keep forgetting you can submit additional data for games. I just tend to take what they list at face value...

@Kelvin - SONIC TUESDAY! Why do we not have a national holiday on that date?

@Manicfatty: I already said why; America got the Genesis game four days before that, and didn't get the SMS game at all. So no "national" holiday could occur. If we did have one, it'd be the single most joked about holiday in history, with Sonic haters lining up massive attacks every year.

In 1992, Sonic Tuesday was a big deal In fact when I got Sonic 2 for Christmas its came with a Sonic T-shirt.

this game was cool when i was 10, and it did take a long time to beat. BOOGER!!!!

I read that as when you were 10, it did take a long time to eat BOOGERS. And now that I have no money to buy games until next week, we'll have a very good week for us Europeans. I was in two minds about getting a pizza take away or waiting to see whats on VC tonight. I just know it will be Secret of Mana because thats just my luck. Oh well.

Huh. My contribution was rejected because I said the Japanese Sonic 2 came out in 1992.
"Notes: See http://sega.jp/archive/segahard/master/soft.html - Master System games stopped production in 1989" My fault, I wrongly assumed that the Japanese game came out same year as in Europe. Does anybody know what year the Japanese SMS Sonic 2 came out?

My wii gathers dust.

No games I want tonight. But Europe is this close to surpassing the number of games that America has. And I use my Wii regularly... mainly for the Internet channel really since I can't use the family PC after my parents have gone bed.

Do not want!

Why are you so obsessed with passing America, Bass X0? If I recall, last year you guys were close to surpassing America at one point and then all of a sudden we started to get 3 plus games per week and Europe barely got 1 a week. I hope that happens again!

@ Manicfatty:

Hah! Your postings in this thread kick 3 and a half asses (ass? assi?) on scale of 4 possible ass kickingness.

I mean I could be getting ZERO cheese. I should thank my lucky stars I get single slices of boogercheese and marginalsequalcheese each week!!! Thanks for keepin me real.

And I'd like to complain about Sonic Tuesdays............... but it's just too cool a concept to ever complain about.

As far as typical Wii usage goes, I seem to be either mindlessly doing polls or playing River City Ransom of late. I REALLY need to hunker down and polish off Mega Man 9. A criminal lack of attention lately on my part.

I fully support a little gamesmanship about who's ahead in the release total. Something interesting, yet meaningless to discuss while waiting for something of actual value to be released for the VC ......one of these weeks. One of these one game weeks. Although obviously this topic is only interesting so long as NA stays in the lead.......

Eh.

I didn't even check VC until today. Didn't miss much.

@ Captain_Konami - Why thank you! That carries extra special meaning for me as I am an @ss man! Heh

150!

I believe NA has 2 more games than Europe as it currently stands, but if people in Europe change their settings to Australia, they can get Axelay (and I think the currency conversion would be in your favour). In that case NA is ahead by 1.

I'm sure that Nintendo America will make up for the past few weeks with a kick ass release around christmas, but will we see Europe take the lead over the evil north america?? Or shall north america snatch victory from the jaws of defeat?? Only time shall tell. Tune in next fortnight, same time, same website where a winner shall be decided!! [/LAMENESS]

@timp29
I take offense to you saying "evil North America". Remember it was North America who saved Europe's butts not once but twice during both World Wars. If it wasn't for North America, the Nazis would still be around. By the way, most PAL gamers on this site are as much whiners as anyone in North America eventhough they think they are superior and deserve more games than America each week.

@Manicfatty: Well, you know it IS a universal truth........... we all get it in the end.

@timp29: For a moment there I thought you were going to wrap up with the phrase "These questions - and many others - will be answered in the next episode of .......Soap!" I guess it betrays what I've been watching on DVD too much lately.

I rather wish I could just change a setting on my Wii and POOF ..... additional game selection.

It'd feel like I was getting away with something, specially if the something I was getting away with was C64 access. That was the only thing saving our Aussie brethren from the Ghost of Single Game Boogerman Weeks of NA Past this last week.

@Mike

No need to get offended mate, he's only kidding around.

@timp29: I find your "lameness" amusing...

@Mickeymac: Agreed, though it is still a bit of an inappropriate joke.

Well, it's Monday tomorrow. Here's to hoping that we get M.U.S.H.A. this time! Or Salamander, that would also be great!

Edit: Nope, we got a crappy Excite Bike rip-off instead.

Sonic needs a comeback, and it should be on the WiiWare in Sonic the Hedgehog 4.