First comment, and like I said in the USA releases, it was a bit of a disappointment in comparison to what they got. But still, Mayhem in Monsterland looks promising.

I don't think anyone expected Secret of Mana (but apparently I was wrong! ), although I'm sure everyone was hoping. Otherwise, its not a bumper week like in NA. Street Fighter is a bit meh as there are about 4 other versions of it available - and I don't think too many people would want 2 versions of the same game. Its nice to see surprise c64 games, but the only one I'm waiting for is The Last Ninja 3.

What the heck? We couldn't expect to get Mario Golf AND Secret of Mana, but none of them?!

writes angry letter anyway
I really expected they would give us Secret of Mana today.

classic c64 game platform centrale enjoy

Monsterland does look nice for a C64 game

Well, I too really wanted to re-approach Secret of Mana and all but it's most likely that Nintendo have other plans regarding when it would be released (surely before the year is out >.>), not to mention us already getting a batch full of great games in the past month or so. It's a cruel waiting game, but it'll be worth it in the end.

please trust me on this one 500 points is a steal

i don't have any spare points. i would have had to have gotten another 1000 for Mana then i would have had 600 left which i may have used on MiM but I'm disappointed so I'm not gonna put points on for a game i am not entirely desiring.

Unfortunately something must be wrong with the servers as nether Space Harrier nor street fighter showing up in the shop channel here in Australia .
I try to check in an hour or 2 to see if they fixed up the fault yet or not .

Update
Space Harrier showing up but strangly still no Street fighter There's apper to be a really big stuff up .

fair enough ive got 500 points left after mayhem in monsterland ill save it for wizball

It seems like every week my disdain for lacking C64 games grows more and more... ugh. We're really missing out.

Given how much originals of Mayhem go for (10-15 quid for tape, 30-50 quid for disk) then 500 points really IS a bargain...

brace for impact Nintendo of Europe

Sorry you guys didn't get Secret of Mana, but Mayhem in Monsterland looks pretty cool

This is very annoying! They can put out a useless sf2 update but no mana. I wasn't expecting it this week but putting out half the us releases with sf2 for md and not som is a slap in the face!

Yeah great... one Space Harrier has arrived in the shop, but since we don't have C64 games in Australia, it is a very disappointing Friday. Of course I was really hoping for SofM today. That one is a must download game.

Mabe you guys will get Secret of Mana next week.

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Mayhem in Monsterland does look pretty interesting though.

@BB Sting

Europe doesn't vc games every week. They get vc games once every 2 weeks.

Europe will be getting wiiware games next week as a result.

Besides Mayhem in Monsterland, you guys got jipped. Three games this week is weak.

Too bad you guys did'nt get Secret of Mana, but at least you have Street Fighter II: Special Champion Edition
I'm sure you'll get SoM pretty soon tough...

Too bad I can't get C64 games in NZ... maybe I should try getting someone to gift me...

Not such a hot week for you guys. Not bad, but not great either.

Man, I still cant believe this. I opened VC review just before I left work tonite at 12:30 and saw this. My jaw just dropped, couldnt even scroll down for about five seconds. MiM is just such an awesome game, cant wait to download. Had it for the C64 when it was released, but could never make it past level four!!! :/ I remember just sitting, listening to the music when I was small. I hope its still as sweet as I remember.
Im picked a bad time to switch credit cards, waiting for the new one to arrive means I havent been able to buy any Wii points for three weeks!! And we have had quite a good haul recently (I havent even downloaded mega-man9 yet ffs!!!) but I think Ill just feck off into town in the morning and buy some the old fashioned way. I cant understand why other posters arent more excited about this release, Mayhem is an AWESOME GAME!!!!! SERIOUSLY!!!!!
I guess its just a younger crowd here tonite

Oh, but whatever you do, dont try and collect more than 10lives........ or youl know all about it!! Ha ha!

Rubbish Week for Australia and NZ, why can't they sort out this no C64 rubbish. or give up on the alternating weeks. would have killed for some art style games.

Well, you guys at least got three games. Too bad you only get vc games twice a week. But the games you got aren't all bad. Especially since you guys got Mayhem in Monsterland.
@ Drake: Two things I think Euro gamers will do: 1. Write angry letters to Nintendo; and 2. Still wait for Mario Golf and Secret of Mana to be released.

I would love to play Space Harrier again...I have at least half a dozen other games I want to download though not to mention ones I am still working on beating that I already have. If this makes it's way to the US it'll be on my wanted list

I haven't even looked at Secret of Mana yet.
I wonder what all the fuss is about.

Not bad. Mayhem in Monsterland looks fun, as does Space Harrier (which we should be getting fairly soon), but it sucks how you guys keep getting so few Wiiware games lately.

I suspect that you guys will get SoM next week, or maybe the week after.

What's taking so long for Ninty & Commodore Gaming to bring the C64 games to NA & fix the USB keyboard issue?

Nice week for European gamers. About the US release, I wonder why so many people are happy that Secert of Mana was released.

wow what a dissapointment for EU.

well at least they have Earthworm Jim lol

Shining Force II was all I needed a few weeks ago, I am still playing it Hope for SoM next week though.

Don't count on getting anything next week. The way Nintendo of Europe/Australia releases them is one week VC, and the next week Wii Ware.

I'm not that happy about this... all Australia got this week was Space Harrier. No Street Fighter (the fact that I wouldn't download it is beside the point...), no Commodore games.

I'm getting pretty cheesed off with Nintendo about this. Why do we have to have different games from Europe, and less? I might change the region on my Wii soon...

what the f.. where`s secret of mana?

Even though i really wanted SoM today, I'm not angry. I think it's funny, in a twisted way! I wouldn't mind being able to play MiM as well, because that looks like a cool little platformer.

Mayhem in Monsterland!!
At 500 points, this is a game everyone should have. Seriously!
Secret of Mana will come eventually, so why not enjoy that we got this very nice surprise

Secret of Mana ;_;

...But it' a good week
(I waiting the realese of a certain fan translation of an certain nintendo game that is very popular in japan, at the end of this week )

Sod Secret of Mana, I'm so pleasantly surprised to see Mayhem! Of course, Creatures 2 is better, but you can't have everything.

Again a disappointing week. (I'm starting to turn into a complainer, because of the last few weeks).

No Mana. Me angry...

Some good suprises and bad suprises this week. Apart from Mayhem nothing here takes my pick. Was kinda expecting this so i am not that dissapointed we don't have SOM (although we have to wait 2 more weeks).

Mayhem in Monsterland? Never heared about it but it seems like a very nice game. Master Systems scaling capabilities are a bit of a joke, and I´ll stay far away from Space Harrier.

Meh ... I won't miss not getting any of this week's games. Maybe next fortnight (although I hope WiiWare brings the Art Style games next week)

I'm not too worried about SoM because I've still got Shining Force 1+2, Y's Book 1+2 and Breath of Fire to complete. Would have been nice for you guys to get something worth buying though.

MiM is lots of fun and taking into account that it squeezes every bit out of the C64 machine and uses some C64 bugs for their gameplay it plays a big part in C64 history.

No Mana, no Super Turrican 2 and still no Axelay... :~(

Poketim, Mario Maniac and others. HOW MANY TIMES DOES IT HAVE TO BE SAID? There is NOTHING stopping you or anyone in PAL territories from getting C64 games. ALL you have to do is change your region settings to UK and go into the Wii shop. C64 will then be available to you.
Shiryu. You can do the exact same thing to obtain Axelay but changing your region settings to Australia

@Shiryu buy a 2000 AU points card and set your Wii's contry settings to Australia. Thats how i got Axelay. Do bear in mind it wipes your points everytime change countries mind.

And yeah where is Super Turrican 2? I was expecting that game to come too.

On the subject of MiM, I'm over the moon. I haven't got the time to play Mana just yet (still need to finish Mario RPG)
I remember reading the build ups to this game in Commadore Format many moons ago but by the time the game came out you had to mail order it as C64 shelf space had vanished.
Isn't it by the guys who did creatures?

Shiryu, DON'T buy a 2000 points card unless you also plan to buy 2 TG games as well. As slangman says any leftovers will be wiped when you switch back.
The minimal sacrafice to obtain axelay is to buy 1000 points with a credit or debit card ONCE you've switched region.
You'll lose the remaining 200 when you switch back, so think of it as an import tax. 1000 points is worth it for Axelay anyway

@Betagam7 Yep although buying a AU 2000 points card is perfect for those who don't have Visa or MC debit/credit cards. I only lost out on 200 points (800 spent on Axelay, 800 on Ys 1 & 2 and 200 on MM9 content).

Ah, I guess with downloadable content its now possible to use up those points. I take your point that not everybody has a debit card.
It does amaze me thought that people are still complaining about not having C64 in Australia, I thought everybody knew how to do this trick by now?

Too bad you only get vc games twice a week.
You meant month, right

I'm getting pretty cheesed off with Nintendo about this. Why do we have to have different games from Europe, and less?
You're on the other side of the world with a seperate ratings system and a need for legal entities. You might remember how long you went without TG-16 games but whewn Hudson was able to find a legal presence in Australia you caught up pretty quickly.

On the flip side I've lost all hope of Europe ever getting Axelay

Betagam7, yes the Rowlands brothers were also responsible for the excellent Creatures series, as well as the not-quite-as-excellent Cyberdyne Warrior.

@Betagam,
Keep in mind that we don't exactly want to lose our points -- you said it yourself that one loses points when switching countries. Besides, I already mentioned the whole "flipping to different region" thing. lawl. Another problem is that not everyone can access Wii Points via credit card (like me). IIRC, European Point Cards only work for the European region, and Australian Points Cards only work for the Oceanic region.

But that's not the point of it all. If we're able to do something as simple as flip regions, why do they even bother having different games for Europe and Australia?

@Starwolf,
That's true, we did get Turbo games eventually. But from what I've heard, the C64 was released in Australia all those years ago too. So really, unless the OFLC has some crazy objection about giving us C64 games... I don't see why we aren't getting them.

I'm sure you'll get Axelay eventually, though. Just as soon as we get Probotector II.

"I'm sure you'll get Axelay eventually, though. Just as soon as we get Probotector II.

Of course we will in about a year from now lol.

i want secret of mana. NOW!

jsut remember if your in australia and you switch to uk and then use your credit card, you eand up paying more than 15$aud for those points, when i used to do it i regularly paid about 18-19$aud for 100 points.

What sucks the most is that it will now be 2 weeks at least before Secret of Mana. Could they just go back to weekly releases please... 2 weeks seems like a lifetime.

yeah. plus we might get mario golf as the main game next time.

I find it interesting how so many PAL owners are complaining this week. A few months ago when the U.S. was getting garbage and people were complaining, all of you guys in Europe were telling us to stop complaining and be patient.

Well guys, just be patient, LOL!

I said in the first few posts that I'd wait as long as it takes for Secret of Mana (and to some extent Mega Man 3 as well). I'm surprised that even with the inclusion of MiM, not many of my peers seem to be following suit.
I can understand the awkwardness for the Australians, having only to put up with only the other two (or one if Street Fighter II is still unavailable for them). But let's put it this way - surely nothing could follow up from the awesomeness of 2 weeks ago, right?

In the Summer time, North America was getting the shaft. Now you guys are getting the bad end of the deal. Why can't Nintendo just spread the love evenly in all territories? I'm sure you'll get Mario Golf and Secret of Mana soon, though, but until then you DO have an exclusive system with an above average selection of games that we'll likely never get. That's something to be happy about, I guess.

apparently ESRB has rated A Boy and his Blob.

1. This weeks releases hardly constitute "getting the shaft" Mayhem in Monsterland is a bonifide classic and THE big game this week. Their is no sense overshadowing it by releasing mana alongside it. That makes no sense. USA won't be getting MIM so they got Mana a week in advance of us. Big deal!

2. For the Australians who say they can't get a CREDIT card. I'm thirty years old and have (willfully) never had a credit card in my life. A debit card on the other hand is very easy to obtain, practically anyone with a bank account can get one. If you are somehow unable to obtain a bank account then I'm very sorry but that's part of being a child I guess. There should be nothing stopping an adult (or even a teenager with a paper round) from getting one!

Not too happy with these releases this week, have been waiting patiently for mario golf since day one to come onto vc, thought it was definately going to be this week, ahh well heres hoping for next week.

some of the c64 games take me back it was great back in those days, i wonder if the dizzy games will make an appearance, still 500 points is a bit steep when original tapes in the day were £2.99

Feng:

Orignal tapes in the day wern't £2.99. That was only budget titles and by the time Mayhem came out they had risen to £3.99.
Mayhem though wasn't a budget title and would have retailed for around £10.99 plus postage and package (it was only available through mail order)
Therefore the £3.50 it costs on the VC actually makes it cheaper than a budget title and about a third of what it would have cost back then when money was worth a lot more than it is today.
As such its something of a bargain

So the US gets 4 releases and the EU get 3? Someone at Nintendo can't count.

I'm still waiting for Earthworm Jim to be released in the US. Hopefully Monday will be the day! ^^

@Drake: That's been released?

But that's not the point of it all. If we're able to do something as simple as flip regions, why do they even bother having different games for Europe and Australia?
Do comodore gaming have officies in Australia. Have they gone through the pulbishing process including the get the OFLC rating. Just like with Wiiware you have to have a legal presence in the country you are publishing in. If you don't you'll have to find a company to be that presence for you. For instance Nnooo when it comes to Japan had to have EA as the publisher for Pop (this might have been for the wiser since Pop actually is 500 points in Japan). Similarly, the US company behind Criter Round-Up looked toward Komani for publishing in Japan (Konami then published it in the rest of the world...).

I'm pretty sure the TG-16 games came about because of e-mails to Hudson and Nintendo about the subject.

As for the whole reigon flipping thing. I think it borderline retarded and to make things worse I've switched the country to Japan (cheapest points in the world...well, Korea might be slightly chepaer) using homebrew and not lost any points...yet. This proves it only affects specific countries

In fact I wonder what trading standards (or equivilent) would think of this practice (as it is clearly theft)...knowing Nintendo they've burried a bullshit clause in the End User Liscence Agreement (EULA) that says despite the option for changing country being on the menu you're not allowed to use it...

Is the US ever gonna get Commodor 64 games?

" This proves it only affects specific countries"

Yes, the only country change that'll make you lose point is to and from Australia. I change from Brazil and back every time I buy points, since I don't have an American credit card, and Brazil only demands info I'm actually able to supply them with to verify my Norwegian card.

@Taco_Human: Will PAL VC Games ever use 60Hz? As soon as that happens, the US will get Commodore 64 games!

@ RadioShadow: Lol, yeah I kind of gave up on Commodore 64 games coming to the US since the fact that EU has been getting it for about 6-7 months now while we don't even have it announced for us yet.

@MrPinguy Comment#41
As am I it seems.

How come Australia doesn't get Commodore 64 games? Some of them look like they're fun to play! We're supposed to fall in the Europe zone when it comes to gaming, and yet...this happens! What would happen in an all C64 week? I can't even begin to imagine!

By the way, here's hoping we get Mario Golf and Secret of Mana on the 31st of October (just in time for my 21st birthday!)...

YAY, no sooner do I moan that theres no thalamus games on VC they release Mayhem in Monsterland! this is the first great release for the C64 so far, hopefully the creatures games and Armalyte will soon follow.

I've been thinking, is it actually possible for Mayhem in Monsterland to run on NTSC anyway? the game was PAL only and Nintendo don't seem willing to muck about with NTSC games to get them running properly for Europe so they probably won't do the opposite either, maybe thats the reason why the C64 on VC will never go to the US.

Not fair, I want c64 games, if Nintendo really wanted it they would find a way to adapt c64 to NA VC.

Uninteresting.

@Badknux. You're never interested in anything, are you?

Yay! MiM. At least now I beat ToeJam & Earl and will have something new to finish! And by the way, ToeJam & Earl was feckin' hard!

@Mr Cheez. You noticed too? Typing one word and clicking 'Post Comment' is uninteresting too

I switched my region over to UK for Last Ninja 1 and 2 ages ago, when the Aussie dollar was riding high and after currency conversion, I got my points for cheaper than they were in Australia lol. But at the moment, the Aussie dollar is worth about 30 cents less against the greenback, I wouldn't go buying games through Europe region for a while lol.

@Timp. lol, exactly! I mean if he's seriously uninterested in these games, why don't he just not post? I mean really.

@Adamant. Really? Awesome! I'm thinking about doing that whole region switcheroo too, so I can get me some Maboshi, Boulderdash, and Last Ninja. And, if I can, switch to Japan, as they got some mighty fine games there! Would I lose points if I switched to Japan?

@Viral. Did you play the whole game by yourself? It's a pretty tough game if you went solo, but it would probably be a lot easier with a friend around. That game was MADE for co-op. I deleted it long ago, as I thought it was boring as hell.

Does anyone know if there is any kind of plan for the Wii to able to play music cds or dvds in the future.

Definitely not. Nintendo has always been against multi-media like playing music or DVDs.

@Mr Cheez: I would look into it before transferring your Wii's region to UK and trying to download C64 games. I have a feeling the NTSC Wii, can't download games from PAL regions. Its a bummer I know, but you may be able to get games from Japan... fingers crossed (and have your japanese translator at the ready)

@Devastator/Bass X0: There is the chance the WiiHD slated for release in 2010 or whenever may have DVD playback functionality. If blueray picks up and becomes the standard, it might become much more affordable and feature in the WiiHD... but I don't see it happening by 2010.

People, people - American Wiis can't switch to other regions, only other countries.The only Wiis that allow you to switch between different regions are PAL Wiis, which can switch between European countries and Australia (and this deletes your points, as mentioned).

@ Mr. Cheez

No, not really. I just want TMNT III for the NES, that's all.

@Mr. Cheez (85) - I second that remark. I will have to say this is a rather dull week for Europe, though.

@Clayfrd, obviously never had a C64 when you were small.

@betagam7
Point taken re price of games,
I just rememer buying games years ago they all seemed to be around the £2.99 mark I was obviously buying budget titles.
The way you put it mayhem is obviously well worth the 500 points but i dont think the same could be said about a lot of the c64 titles already on vc.

ach looks like the VC is slipping again! Slipping like a one legged man on an ice rink! Or slipping like the gradual decline of Lilly savage's looks.....she used to be so womanly!
Now she just looks like a man!

Yes I'd agree that rubbish like Cybernoid isn't worth 100 points let alone 500 but then surely the same can be said about certain NES games too. Just because they originally came on expensive carts doesn't stop themm being a steaming pile of plop

Yeah, your dead right there perhaps a re-think of prices for certain games is in order, 500 for the good ones that are genuinely worth it and 100-200 for the crap. This would come in handy for spending leftover points, the only problem is each to there own and all that, some people will dissagree on what is exactly worth it and what is crap so i suppose you cant win.

I think with the advent of Mega Man 9 Nintendo and Capcom have conspired to find a way to fleece us of...sorry find a use for those extra 200 points.
Its a very cynical marketing strategy, by leaving you with "change" they know you'll be tempted to buy more

@Will- Actually I don't know why I called this dull. I was mainly referring to SFII, but after looking back at the article, this is definitely not bad. While I didn't have a C64, I generally assume that if VCR says it's good, then it probably had a good fanbase, and I'll judge a week according to the majority's opinion on the games. I'm really not sure why I called the week dull. I think I had just read another article or something. Weird.

i hope we get secret of mana this week. and mario golf. anything else we europeans need thats been released in america recently?

Castlevania III? That might come out this week too.

(prays SoM comes out this week) Oh and Super Turrican 2 would be nice too but that game seems to be held off too for some reason.