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Re: Square-Enix Changes Its Mind About The Virtual Console?

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1. CopyofCopyX Germany 17 May 2008, 13:39 GMT

So we have an semi clear quote and a lot of guesses...
In maybe one year , we will know the truth.

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2. YoshiAngemon United States 17 May 2008, 13:07 GMT

Personally, I'm hoping for Mischief Makers, a joint project by Square Enix and Treasure Games. That was a good game. But maybe since Microsoft Game Studios, makers of Blue Dragon would officially own Chrono Trigger, maybe THEY should release it on XBox Live Arcade. Don't get me wrong, I don't own a 360. Maybe they'll also release RC Pro AM, too.

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3. NESgamer Mexico 17 May 2008, 10:05 GMT

Damn it then just remake Chrono Trigger and Secret of Mana or release them on VC, but do SOMETHING, don't take another 10+ years to think what would be the best for your wallet if either way we are going to make Square richer :X.

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4. Jukka Denmark 17 May 2008, 09:38 GMT

never really been a fan of square-enix, only tried crystal chronicles on Gamecube and it was good but not great, but i would be nice to see some more old SNES rpg games on virtual console.

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5. ThirdMarioBro United States 17 May 2008, 08:32 GMT

Just pass me a copy of Rad Racer on the VC and I'm good.

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Re: EU VC Releases - 16th May - Third Hanabi Festival Week

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6. Corbie United States 17 May 2008, 05:45 GMT

At least Europe and Australia are getting Turbo/PC Engine games. We haven't gotten a new TG16 game since February. :(

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7. Quimby Australia 17 May 2008, 05:11 GMT

I'm with you captain banana.
I like the idea of obscure jap games, but when they come out they all seem to be crappy SMUPS.
They may be good SMUPs, but how many do we need?
Cho aniki, star parodier, parodius... to me all exactly the same game.
I got sick of SMUPs early Mega Drive days. (with the exception of Mars Matrix :-) )

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8. Quimby Australia 17 May 2008, 05:01 GMT

Screw Square Enix. :-(
Super Mario RPG works on DreamSnes...
For being this greedy I will never buy one of thier games again (no big loss- not a fan of thier FF or mana type series').
Yes Jogurt, I agree it is a business, but gaming (especially retro gaming) is quite a nostelgic niche' and if SE cant pander to peoples wants even though it requires almost no real effort (free money) because they think they can make more with a remake.
I did quite enjoy king's knight, but I will buy no more.

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Re: EU VC Releases - 16th May - Third Hanabi Festival Week

9. captain-banana Australia 17 May 2008, 04:19 GMT

i actually dont like the hanabi festivals: every week i check the shop channel and its another weirdo game with an unpronounceable name that kills my dream of pilotwings 64 or majoras mask coming even further.
dont judge me

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10. Adamant Norway 17 May 2008, 04:11 GMT

Come on, people, stop complaining so much. Gley Lancer and Star Parodier are both fantastic game well worth downloading. Yes, they are just "more shmups", but DoReMi is "just another platformer", and God knows you have played your fair share of those up through the years.

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11. Adamant Norway 17 May 2008, 04:06 GMT

" For example I bought Metriod Zero mission, It's one of my favorite GBA games, but I still downloaded the original Metriod. I wanted both games. I like the updated visuals, but sometimes I want to play old school retro."

^Uh, what? First off, Zero Mission pretty much only has the plot in common with Metroid, and secondly, the original Metroid is unlockable on the cart anyway.

As for Squeenix, as others have said, it's simple math. If people are willing to pay full price for one of their old games, why give them the option to download it for a fraction of the price. If you say a digital download won't cut into the sales of a full-priced remake, then you lie, and you know it. Simple as that.

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12. TheLuigiDude United States 17 May 2008, 03:09 GMT

@themightyblot
Exactly, sure square's a good game company, but I think they've let it go to there heads way worse than Nintendo ever has (well maybe not in the N64 days, lol) and they feel that the VC isn't worthy of holding their such honorable titles and as far as they care they'll just sucker everybody by making a remake and slapping on a $40 pricetag ($5 higher than any other DS game, even Nintendo's, because of the quality mark). Maybe if we're lucky we'll get some Chrono Trigger remake (and that'll be good I guess) and Square will just release their lessen known games like Knight's Knight on the VC.

Harsh words, yeah, but while I love a lot of Square's games I've come to dislike the company.

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13. timp29 Australia 17 May 2008, 01:45 GMT

Will the world ever be the same?? Your tongue must be through your cheek dazza

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14. Drake Netherlands 17 May 2008, 00:33 GMT

Bass: This Tuesday will probably be a one-off. If we're lucky we might even get WiiWare games on Tuesday and then more on the Friday after!

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15. timp29 Australia 17 May 2008, 00:17 GMT

Yeah square, why waste time and people on redoing old games when you could have them designing new bread winners for the company? Just push the old classics onto VC using as little resources as possible, leaving you with some income flow through VC and maximum resources to develop new content. Money orientation isn't necessarily the sign of a responsible business, you have to look after your fan base too, these people will be your number one customers as they will buy a game just because it was made by square-enix- not all games are created equal.

Edit: I must admit, I've never played any square enix games, except for maybe a final fantasy on the playstation. However, if chrono trigger comes out, it will be an instant download for me as i have heard such a great deal of positive feedback about it, long before the VC even came along. Release chrono trigger on VC!!!!!!!!

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16. whalleywhat Canada 16 May 2008, 23:46 GMT

My only hope would be that they would look at the amount of effort it would require to do, say, a Chrono Trigger remake that anyone would think was adequate was just too much effort when they can throw a rom on VC and print money. Post-GBA, I don't think they can get away with a straight 2D port, so it would need to be mostly or all new assets and they'd have to be sure they weren't screwing it up. Do the right thing Squeenix! Free money!

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17. deadly.by.design United States 16 May 2008, 23:08 GMT

I think they need to get over themselves and commit to the VC. I'd prefer that over combined disc releases.

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18. Shortay-01 United Kingdom 16 May 2008, 22:46 GMT

I'd love to play the likes of FF III & IV, Chrono Trigger and Super Mario RPG, but somehow I still don't see some of them being released.

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19. Bass X0 United Kingdom 16 May 2008, 22:27 GMT

I don't know why they won't put NES Final Fantasy 1 on Virtual Console. The GBA game is old now and no longer in production while the PSP version has no real bearing on Nintendo fans.

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20. Snyderman United States 16 May 2008, 21:49 GMT

Thank you oh great charitable SquareEnix, perhaps you can bless us with your treasures like Rad Racer.

Maybe they haven't rereleased Final Fantasy I+II enough times?

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21. Mendez United Kingdom 16 May 2008, 21:23 GMT

Meh... I was hoping for castlevania. :(
I'm not fussed on shooters.

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22. lockelocke United States 16 May 2008, 21:20 GMT

It seems like Square-Enix is treating the VC as a dumping grounds for Intellectual Property they feel has lost its value. That would certainly explain why we've only seen the more minor of S-E's license catalog appear on the VC (not to diss Actraiser, an old favorite of mine!). While the statement by Tsuchida & Shiraishi seems to imply that the VC is a less profitable forum for releases, it makes sense to me that if Square-Enix really is judging games on an individual basis, and deciding which platform is best for rerelease, a lot of titles (like SMRPG) that have a high demand for release on the VC might benefit from this 'strictly business' philosophy that says, "may the most profitable console win!"

But, I can see how the VC might fall short of maximizing profit, when you consider that the current Final Fantasy DS remakes, which could have been sold without any graphical updates for 5 dollars a pop (or 8?? Have they put out any Super Famicon FF's on DS??), are instead being sold for six times that amount.

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23. jg233 United States 16 May 2008, 20:56 GMT

:( I want SE's games.

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24. Stuffgamer1 United States 16 May 2008, 20:01 GMT

The way I read this was "we might remake these games, possibly, years from now, if we feel like it, and we're not going to give you a temporary solution that gets us some money and you off our backs." And there are plenty of classic games you know will NEVER be remade, as well as Mystic Quest. The list of classics includes Soul Blazer, Illusion of Gaia, Secret of Evermore, and Terranigma (I assume it's awesome, seeing as it was NEVER RELEASED IN AMERICA!!!) We all know that Actraiser fit into this category as well, which is why it's actually on the VC already. The only question is why they haven't made the same inevitable conclusion with the rest of this list. No remakes are coming (they're far too busy remaking Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest), and yet they won't take the practically free money of a VC release.
All this announcement did is further prove how stupid Squenix is as they give us a BS statement and hope that we'll understand and agree with their point. Relative to Final Fantasy (save for Mystic Quest), I DO agree with them, and have been trying to remind people of that on this site for months. But we all know they won't remake every classic Enix game ever made, and it's a crying shame that they won't give us VC versions either.
But there's still hope. They released another weird game on the Japanese VC a month or so ago (a Japan-only Front Mission title), and that was one you'd think they'd remake (unless Front Mission DS sold like garbage)! Even if they only give us one obscure game every two or three months, it's still better than nothing at all.

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25. SuperSonic1990 United States 16 May 2008, 19:24 GMT

BB Sting,

Mario and Luigi:Partners in Time is NOT a direct sequel to SMRPG. Mario and Luigi Partners in Time is the sequel to the GBA game Mario and Luigi:Superstar Saga. SMRPG has NEVER had a direct sequel. The Paper Mario series and the Mario and Luigi series were made by Nintendo,not Square-Enix. Only Square-Enix can make SMRPG2.